Chatbots forget. Always-on AI agents keep working.

**[00:00:00]** Hello everyone and welcome to the Web Talk Show. My name is Armando Perez Carreno and today on this solo episode, we're going to be talking about Grokbot and how AI agents can really help your business's workflow. I wanted to touch on this particular topic because while we have mentioned in passing the different tools like Claude and ChatGPT and Codex and Grok and Gemini etc. They have all been something that you chat with in a session type experience. Let me explain. When you open ChatGPT or when you open Claude, you typically open a new session, a new conversation and you start chatting with it. And you might be asking it about something. If you want to learn about something, you might ask it to research something. You might ask it to help you build something if you want to build a little application or something. And we always recommend in those cases, well, talk to it and get what you need. And when you get closer to the end of that context window, then just start a new conversation so you're not filling up that context window. And that still applies. It's very important for those of you who don't know. context window is sort of the the running memory if you will of the the chat or the the agent the LLM. It can have maybe support for 1 million tokens and that means roughly around 1 million words give or take. So you go through the conversation and something to know is that if you say something let's say you say it in five words it'll receive five words and then it'll respond maybe with another six words. So now there's 11 words being used. And if you send back five more words, now there's going to be 16, etc. back and forth. Every time you send the message and it sends a message back, it **[00:02:00]** sends the whole conversation back and forth. It's not really remembering everything. It's just receiving back and forth what you're sending it. and the harnesses or the tools around the LLMs have gotten better with um the passing we can't say years this is going so fast that uh they they've been implementing some memory features etc but in general terms that's how it happens and that's why when you are talking to it initially it feels like it's really really smart and it's understanding what you're telling it perfectly but sometimes after long conversations you can feel that it's not doing a great job or or or as good of a job as it was doing at the start. And a lot of times that is because you are close to the end of the context window or you have actually gone past the context window. And if that happens then it has to compress the conversation. It has to sort of summarize everything that was discussed keeping a little bit and then open more space for you to talk to it. And while that works, you can find that a lot of the details, fine grain details get lost and it'll it'll start saying things that for you might might seem very confusing cuz you were like, "Wait, didn't we just talk about this?" So something to consider. So that's that's something we always talk about in our workshops when we're we're showing people how these LLMs work and how it's the best way to take advantage of them as you are talking to them. So we're not doing any deep dives today. just just giving a little brief um overview of that to make clear the point that I want to make with with Grok's bot specifically and and of course now uh Claude's duet that just came out. So what is the difference? Well, when you're chatting with the regular ones again, you have a purpose. You want to do something and then maybe you finish that conversation, you open another conversation to talk about something else. Ideally, I know some people just have this massive thread. Not a great idea, but some people do that. If you're using something like Claude Code or Codex, you have it on your computer, you're using it to build **[00:04:00]** applications, websites, apps, whatever you want. Same thing. You're sort of going through a conversation, you don't want to finish that context window because you'll you'll lose some of that fine grained detail. Now the benefit of using something like clot code or Codex on your machine or in the cloud is that you don't have to keep everything in the context. So if you're talking about files, it doesn't have to read the whole file every time. It has access to your file system and so it can go through folders and files and just read the parts that are necessary for what you're doing and work on different files and your context window becomes more usable in that sense. Also another benefit is that if you're doing that then you have this repository of code that you can talk to in multiple sessions and you don't have to remind it every time what you're talking about because it keeps track in files of what you've been discussing, what you've been doing, etc. And in another video, I'll I'll talk a little bit more about my preferred coding or or developing process so that you don't lose track of things and don't get sidetracked and make sure you don't inject a bunch of bugs into your code and keep it secure. I'll do other episodes specifically about that. But today, I just wanted to talk about this sort of AI assistant world that's that's coming on that started originally as the sort of hacked projects that people did. The main one being first OpenClaw that that uh Steinberger did which uh was really neat and we a lot of us got on board and we started testing it. Basically, you installed something on your machine or on one machine that you had there laying around and you could connect it to your different LLMs and it was really nice because it could allow you to keep these sort of longer running conversations with it either via Telegram or different messaging applications and and and it was very neat because it felt like something that could continue without you necessarily being on top of it. So, **[00:06:00]** people started having it do things overnight, over few neat days, etc. they could just spawn new sessions and it was really nice. However, it was still a little bit do-it-yourself homebrew kind of thing, which is which is great, but u there were or could be some security implications and also not everyone is as technical to be able to do something like that. Then came along Hermes and a bunch of others. Again, really great tools. really enjoyed using them, but uh they stayed sort of in that realm of uh do-it-yourself hacky kind of thing. Again, which is great, but it's not for everyone, especially not for someone who who's very serious as a business. They don't they don't and they're not very technical. They don't want any possibility of of having issues with something like this exposing their data. So as that is going suddenly one of the contenders Grok specifically comes along after the whole Grok/SP SpaceX cursor joining together of forces they come out with this thing called Grokbot and Grokbot is like what you would have experienced with OpenClaw or Hermes where you have this always on assistant that you can talk to and you can have multiple sort of bots or agents within it but it is part of the Grok or cursor subscription now the X subscription right there that's a new thing but anyway it's part of that so it's the first time a big main stream provider is just including it as part of their offering and then came along the others right the dots and the m and the whatever but speaking of graph But I think the way they executed it was brilliant because you just open the application on your computer, on your phone, the browser, and you start **[00:08:00]** with one conversation and you just start chatting with it and it's very easy to use and you very quickly get to understand the power of it or at least I did. The way you get started, if you're not very technical, you basically open it and you start chatting. You tell it what you wanted to help you with and some people call it their chief of staff or whatever you want. Um, you can give it a name if if if you if you want and you basically start having a conversation. I have seen excellent use cases of it and I'll go through some of them. Some examples that we've we've done and and some clients have done that just open up your time [clears throat] from things that you would have spent a lot of time doing that you never got around to, if that makes sense. SEO, for example, is a big one. SEO, search engine optimization or or or AI or GEO, whatever you want to call the new version of it. That's like does Chad GPT mention me when people ask for this thing? So those those two things are very important for any website, for any business and many times they're just left alone, not not really touched because people are busy. Businesses are busy. They're they're servicing clients, etc. and and you don't don't get the time to do a lot of what's needed to to have proper SEO, AIO, again, whatever you want to call it. So, along comes Grokbot. And a a very nice thing that I've seen people do is tell it, hey, I have this website. This is my business website. This is what we do. I would like you to help me get better at SEO. This is just an example. And there are some pre-existing bots in a bot marketplace that Grok has and it's it's really nice because it gives you examples of things that can be done. One of them is I think AI visibility, search visibility, another one's SEO and AO desk and those are made by the the Grok **[00:10:00]** team and they they already have instructions within it that sort of show what can be done, right? It just just works. So you can download that one, install it, and then have your main persona, your main agent um do something. So you can tell your main bot um hey hello, I um we have this website. I would like to get better visibility on search. Can you help me do that? And then it will go ahead and actually message the other bot. And it's pretty fun to see. It'll message the other bots and it'll tell it, okay, we've got this website. Can you help us get better SEO? And since it has the knowledge, I mean instructions, basically it's just text behind the scenes to understand how SEO and a AIO works, it's able to then say, okay, what should I do? I should probably go and figure out the terms for this particular industry. And so it goes, it does searches on the internet, etc., and it figures out what the terms people are searching for in that particular industry. It could do that, but then it can also go and find your competitors in the space or you can tell it your competitors in the space if you already know them. And then it will go and examine what they are ranking for and they can find the pages that are appearing. And maybe you don't have pages that show um I don't know specific features or comparisons or things like that, whatever people are actually searching for and what's trending in the search results. It'll gather all that and then give you suggestions. Oh, you could do this. You could do this other thing. You can do this other thing, etc. And so you might say, well, I can already do that with Chacht or Claude or or Brag Gemini. You could, but I think here's where it gets really interesting. You could then have another butt. Okay, so you could just tell your main one to say, okay, so my website we created, and this might be also for for people who have full control of your website. **[00:12:00]** Here's an example I saw recently. uh that we did with automark clients. We had the website, we had the code repository on GitHub for the website and we told you I want you to be an expert on this particular website. So I'm going to give you the repo. Please download see how it deploys, how everything works, etc. All the read me files are there and let me know when you're ready. And so this other bot gets created and it's now an expert on the particular website and it can also publish and make changes to the website which is really neat. And then once it has that and it says, "Okay, so I have everything ready. What do you need?" And then now that you have both of them, you can tell either one of them directly or the other one or the main one. And again, this is where it gets really interesting. You can decide not to talk with the intermediate agents and just talk with one. And it will actually give other agents tasks. So you can say, "Okay, perfect. Thank you for the summary that uh we have. Now, can you tell my website agent to or bot, whatever you want to call it, to consider all of these suggestions and tell me what we should do on the or what we can do on the website. And then it'll go and look at the code, look at everything, look at the database and suggest, okay, we could create this page, this page, this other page. if you can grab information that you already have. We can change the copy to this other thing, um, etc. Do you want to change any of this? And it'll ask you and you can just go ahead and say yes, no, can change this, change that, etc. And, um, go for it. And then it will go code everything, modify the website, make all the changes first, depending on how you have things set up, like we we publish everything on we have like preview environments and things like that. So it's able to generate everything, modify the code, create a pull request. Again, this is this part is technical. Um, but then it'll show you an example. Here's a preview of it. And you can go and browse it and it **[00:14:00]** looks great. And I say, okay, excellent. Yeah, go for it. And then it'll just publish it. And then you can take it further. You can say, great. Now, make sure to connect my search console from Google if you use that or whatever other service. And it can it can now talk to search console. You can have another bot that just just focused on that or it could be the same one. And then you can have it every week or every few days check the reports in the search console. You can give it access to Google Analytics and it will actually go through and review that as it is occurring like real time. It will go through review analytics, review search console every few days and then based on that give you more suggestions and make the site better and then put it again and again and again and all of a sudden in just a few days you're going to have a lot or you may I don't know you may have and we've seen it happen ridiculously um that uh we we started seeing in a site that didn't have impressions basically suddenly it had 1500 in a few days and then 3,000 impressions and then 5,000 impressions and it was just because you were now taking advantage of things that people are already searching for. And you could have done it yourself. It just takes a lot of time. And so with these agents, you're able to do it and and not forget about it because you can have them do it every week or every few days and then give you reminders of what they did and how it's working and ask you if you want to do something else, etc. So again, super super neat what you can do in with these sorts of tools. Another thing that's super interesting is that you can have it do things that are not necessarily tech adjacent. So, while the example that I just gave is going to be very common for anyone that has a website, especially if you just recently redid your website, I know a lot of you might have heard of LMS and started using them and playing around with them. And maybe you redid your website yourself or had someone help you redo your website now with modern **[00:16:00]** technologies instead of like maybe an old software stack that you couldn't really manage. And now it might look beautiful and everything, but uh still going into the code and modifying it can be messy. So, you ask your agent and it'll help. It'll do everything for you. That's very nice. But for anyone who's not doing anything like this and you are like what are you talking about and how does it help me if I'm not working on a website specifically? Well, I'll give you some examples and then I might give some other examples related to to tech products. But uh first let's get into the personal use of it and and I'll give you some examples that I've seen again some that we have done some that some of our clients have done that are very helpful. So these modern LMS are very good at understanding nuances in context and then finding patterns. And so for things that take a lot of your time like your email, everyone talks about, oh, it's going to now triage my email. It's going to take care of all my emails so I don't have to look at them and etc. Well, hold on. You don't need to not look at them, but it can really help like an assistant. And if you're thinking about security and privacy, yes, of course, there's there's privacy concerns. You have to make sure that you trust it. You have to make sure that if it's a company thing, that your company allows it and and allows the connections, etc. But once you get over that hurdle, it's not that you give it access to your email. For example, it has a Gmail connector. It's not that you give it access to your Gmail and now it'll read all of your Gmail. And we talked about this in our latest episode. It's not It's not going to read all your Gmail. It's just not practically feasible. And also, it makes no sense because it will just lose all the context. It doesn't need to read all of your email. It just need access to the account the same way you have access to the account. And so, if you gave your assistant access to the account, a real person, then you could give access to the tool. And security aside, mentioned it before, let's say you do this. Okay? So, what happens? It is very similar to what your assistant would do. You would ask it, okay, so look at my inbox. only **[00:18:00]** my inbox. And please, anything that looks like a sales pitch, just don't give it to me. Anything that looks like outreach that I might not be interested in, please hold or you look at it and and review it. If there's anything that's related to paying things, then send that to, I don't know, accounts receivable, accounting, whatever. If you are talking about or the emails are talking about sales, send them over to me. If they're talking about uh support or troubleshooting, then send them to the troubleshooting team. And once you give it a few examples, and some you don't even have to give it examples, but it's good to give it examples. It will do a very good job at that because every time something comes in, it will be able to analyze it and say, "Oh, okay. This looks like something that you would want to look at." and it'll it'll flag it for you or it'll just give you a summary at the end of the day whenever. Because remember, email is a communication tool, but it's not meant to be a a an on always on immediate realtime type of conversation tool. It's an asynchronous tool like mail. There's there's like it's supposed to take time. I mean, you get it and then eventually you read it, but people sort of at some point decided it should be immediate. But it's not it's not instant messaging. That's not its point. Somebody [snorts] actually, it's funny, there is this story that somebody created the sort of snail mail kind of email where you could send an email and it would actually take as long as it would take an actual letter to get there just for the fun of it. But a lot of people use it. I mean, I don't know. But uh coming back to email, if you are checking your email all the time all day, then you're constantly getting interrupted and you're you're getting these distractions that are giving you new tasks or things to think about that stop you from continuing being **[00:20:00]** productive in whatever you are doing. So it's not practical. You shouldn't be doing that. That's at least that's my take. You should check your email a few times a day if you want or once or twice a day and at that point address the different things and there's even methodologies like the getting things done where it's all about and this is before email but you get your inbox of things and you process them once and you create tasks and thing to do etc and then you get on with your day and then eventually you process another set of items from your inbox and create tasks etc and you get them out of the way and I think that's a great way to do things. Now, if you're constantly looking at your email and the problem is that you keep getting mixed with important email, you're getting all these spam email and also some scams and then outreach and then troubleshooting. You get pulled all sorts of ways and it's it's just not practical for being productive in your work, which you want to be productive. We all want to. So, what do you do with these tools? I have found that they're very good at managing this and organizing them, organizing things. Like if you would have spent 15 minutes when you're checking your email just looking at everything, tagging it like anything that you might want to look at later, maybe you tag it and it goes in a folder. If it's something that you don't care about, you might trash it. If it's spam, you might mark it as spam. If it's something that should go somewhere else, you might send it to someone else. That just takes time and again it will distract you from what you're actually doing. So the agent, the bot can do that for you. And then you don't even have to go in your email. You can I still go in my email, but it can allow you to not be dependent on looking at your email. So you can look at it whenever you want, but by the time you looked at it, it's already been cleaned enough to only show what's important. And then it can also be proactive and **[00:22:00]** flag things that are might be more important. So you can have it, hey, if there's something that's critical, there something's down, a client needs immediate support, we owe someone money, whatever, it can actually push it up. And it doesn't have to be in the email. It can send you a message directly in the tool and be like, "Hey, look at this right now." And you'll be like, "Oh, yes, that's important." and you can do something about it or tell the person that should do something about it. So I found for sort of personal time management things, it's very good. So you can use it for things like that, either home email, work email or both. And then it can help you with your calendars as well. There's these little tasks that happen. And I'll give you a very good example. I think um the other day I was doing something that I do often. We have the show, right? So when we do a show, maybe people reach out, they they're pitching guests, etc., blah blah. That's the good. I I always like receiving those. Please keep sending those. And and I like to look at who we're going to be talking with, etc. And then we might record a show and after the show I have to do a lot of things like cutting the episode, doing post-production, thumbnails, uploading it into different platforms and and a lot of that we we have automations for. But regardless, we do all that and then at the end I have to send the guests a notification that it's ready. So that also takes time. So, if I can already have what I'm going to send them and I already have the links and I have everything because I already went through the whole cycle. It's a lot easier to just say, and this is something I did the other day just for kicks and I thought it was it was really neat. Typically, I would have to do these few things, especially if it was a guest that was brought in from from like a PR form. I would have to after everything's ready, get the links for the episodes. Okay? So, Spotify, go into **[00:24:00]** YouTube, go into Apple Music podcasts. I would have those links, put them somewhere like a notepad or whatever, write them down. And then I would have to find the person's name in my email to figure out who brought them to us so that we can include them in the email and get their email. And then very likely, I don't have their email directly, but I do have their email in my calendar because they accepted the invitation for the recording. And so I then have to go to my calendar and get the guests email because I don't know it by memory. And then I can draft the email which is always very similar and giving them the links and I might add something a little note or something respect to what we talked about. But other than that it's it's a generic message. So, the other day I finished one and it was on the I was on the road and I just told my Grokbot I just said, "Hey, for the new episode, please find the person who suggested this guest, find the guest's email and draft the email, get it ready for me to review." And it did all of that that I just explained, which are all very simple steps, but it did them like in 5 seconds. And then had everything already ready for me in the same conversation. Just showed me, hey, this is a message. You want to change anything? and I said, "Oh yeah, just add these five words, send it." And it goes and it sends it. And it did a brilliant job of it. And it all those little things that might take you 5 minutes, 10 minutes, but you do them often. It's enough time to like be something that you need to consider. So you can think of a million different use cases like that one that a tool like this will be very helpful for. So for those who have no idea where to start because it looks like what's this? I'm going to have many bots. What are they going to do? Don't think that you have to create a lot of bots. Just create one. Start with one. And then if you find yourself working specifically on something with it constantly, then tell it, okay, let's let's spin off another bot that's like that's focused on that one like on your website and then have another one that's **[00:26:00]** focused on maybe you have a side project or another business. Focus that one on that one. And maybe you have some helper bots like the ones that they have in the marketplace, one for SEO and AIO, and maybe you have one for uh research, right? You have a specialized one for research, and maybe you have one that's very good at X or Twitter, and you have another one that's very good at YouTube. So, that's how you start creating new ones, but you don't start just having a bunch of them. If they don't make sense, you're never going to use them. That's at least the way I'm using it, and we've got clients using them. And I I really want to stress how useful they've been. And you don't have to go with the Grok route. I mean, now Claude like since yesterday released Do It and there's there's that and then there's there's the Muse and the there's the dots from like there's a bunch of alternatives now that it's out of the But the way this one works specifically, I enjoy. And one of the things that I really like is how it manages credentials and login because it has its own computer and you can then log into things in that computer if you want and then it can use them. So a lot of the things that happened with OpenClaw or with other things or even directly when you're using Claude etc is that many websites are blocked from bots right they don't they don't want excessive but use and I understand but sometimes it's just they're not you're not like scraping them right maybe you just want to go and do specific actions that you would have done that would have taken you a lot of time in your personal account and so with that it's very nice because it has a computer you log in to the tool, whatever you want to use, and then it can go and use it as you slowly goes clicks through the things, fills out the forms, does that sort of thing. So, it's very useful. And if you didn't know, you can have there's a setting where you can have it route the traffic through your network. So, it's not going through a data center somewhere. It's **[00:28:00]** the the network traffic. It's going from your home network if if you have a computer that's on and connected to Grub. So, that's very useful as well because there's sites and things that you you want to keep sort of closed in to your VPN or they're just sites that you know that will block data center usage. So, very neat. You can control the screen if you want. If you see it doing things, you can go in and click it will ask you to do some things sometimes like it will say, "Hey, I need the the username and password for this." But it won't store them any like it won't won't look at them. It will give you specialized little boxes where you can put that information and it's invisible for the agent itself, but it can still use them in the computer. There's all these little ways that it's doing things that I found align with how I would personally like it to do. So, I've had a good time. I have about six different projects running on it. most of them being personal or or side project or things that we have internally and then we've had people use them as well and and gotten similar experiences as as we are having SEO wise like I said works miracles research- wise it's very useful as well managing your time I found it to be very good because even if you already use a tool for like your CRM and your time management, etc. I personally have my own. It's called Janus. It's it's an internal tool that that manages our client work and it's very specific to how we work, right? But I simply gave it access to it. And so I can go and use it via the browser. And so when it's giving me a warning briefing or something, I can go into that tool and it will tell me what's pending, what's missing, what uh did I overlook, what didn't I do yesterday, what got lost in the ether, right? And so I can do those things or I **[00:30:00]** can say, "Oh, no, no, yeah, I completed those. I just didn't mark them." And it'll go and it'll it'll complete them. So you have also specialized tools for things. It could log into those. that could uh remind you to do things, etc. And it it's just so practical to be able to be on the road or somewhere where you're waiting in line. You don't have to bring your computer everywhere. There's a lot of things that now you can do just talking with it. And since it has it own computer, you can even go into the computer and do things if if you wanted to. Also, I really liked the sort of personal home use of it. You can h connect to your calendars. You can have it review emails from, I don't know, if you got kids, your school teacher might be sending summaries during the week with things to remember, things like that. So, you might have birthday parties, you might have all sorts of things. And if you have multiple kids, it's hard to keep track of everything. So you can have go through different calendars and different emails that is very specific that you know will bring up dates etc. and it'll put everything together and then you can like we did uh create a little dashboard that you have on screens around the house and you can see what any what everyone is doing at specific times of day what you need to um consider what you need to take if you have to take dance shoes if you have to take uh gymnastics like whatever it'll it'll allow you to keep track of all the things and remind you what's next and that way you don't forget activities ities or especially if you're not shared calendar sometimes you have Google calendar and your partner might have outlook calendar or iCloud calendar so it can become messy so that way you can have everything together but it also it will remind you so in the morning if you ask it to it could be oh by the way remember that today you had to sign up for the parent teacher conferences or something like that. So, we've seen it **[00:32:00]** do things like that and it's very useful because it's like a legitimate assistant that you would give them some tasks that you might not want to give a person and you might give them a lot of tasks that you want to give a person, right? But it's it's it's a good medium I think that uh you can do especially if you don't have an assistant. Like don't fire your assistant, right? They're they're very useful, right? Very helpful, but it's especially for someone who doesn't have an assistant. It's a way to get into something like that where they can help shave some time off so you can spend more time with your family uh or your work, whatever you fancy, right? And uh I've I've found that uh these really are very mindopening once you start using them and and starting to see how much they can actually help you and your team do things and work together better without being interrupted with so many things and without letting things fall through the cracks as well. So I'll do another deep dive another time. I'll talk about how specifically you can use it and make sure that it's doing the right thing and how to make sure that it's uh coding properly and how using your writing guidelines and using your voice and that sort of thing. But uh for now I think it's a good introduction for those of you who didn't know that this sort of thing existed. Really it is impressive what you can get done especially those little things that you tend to sort of forget about or or not put so much attention to. I think it's a great way to handle it. Anyway, if you haven't liked and subscribed to the show, please do so. 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